Celebrating the Journey to 1,000,000 Downloads! Live Episode #236
Whoo-hoo! Today we’re celebrating!
This summer, we hit 1,000,000 downloads on the podcast!!!
To celebrate, I hosted a live Q&A podcast episode last month and here it is…
You all asked some amazing questions! You shared your hearts and experiences. It was a beautiful time together.
You had me reflecting on my podcasting journey and the last 5 years, from overcoming self-doubt to reaching a million downloads, and the importance of staying true to myself and my values.
We talked about some of the challenges of motherhood with ADHD and several moms jumped in and encouraged each other, reminding you to embrace your values, individuality, and creative parenting. Throughout the episode, you all bring up your own experiences, from struggles with remembering goals due to ADHD, to the challenges of meeting a child's needs and the pressure to do it all, perfectly.
This conversation focuses on finding balance, trusting yourself, and the inevitable learning process of parenting. Honestly, it felt like a big friendship hug. I really appreciate you so, so much. I never would have arrived here without you, and I adore you more than words can express. Hanging out with you makes my heart happy and full.
Thank you for joining me on this incredible journey to help as many moms with ADHD as possible! Now let’s go help thousands more moms! Send this episode to a friend.
Big hugs!
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Patricia Sung [00:00:02]:
Are you overwhelmed by motherhood and barely keeping your head above water? Are you confused and frustrated by how all the other moms make it look so easy? You can't figure out how to manage the chaos in your mind, your home, or your family. I get you, mama. Parenting with ADHD is hard. Here is your permission slip to let go of the Pinterest worthy visions of organization and structure fit for everyone else. Let's do life like our brains do life, creatively, lovingly, and with all our might. When we embrace who we are and how our brains work, we can figure out how to live our lives successfully, and in turn, lead our families well. At the end of the day, we just wanna be good moms. But, spoiler alert, you are already a great mom.
Patricia Sung [00:00:52]:
ADHD does not mean you're doomed to be a hot mess mama. You can rewrite your story from shame spiral to success story, and I'll be right here beside you to cheer you on. Welcome to Motherhood in ADHD.
Patricia Sung [00:01:08]:
Hello, my dears. I am so excited that you are here. I'm gonna apologize now. I am on the tail end of a sinus infection, and I'm gonna hope that my voice holds out for this hour. I'll go as long as I can. But mostly, I wanted to start by saying thank you. I'm so glad that you all are here. And just to be here and be like, there was 1,000,000 downloads of this podcast is just bonkers to me.
Patricia Sung [00:01:32]:
And, I just so appreciate y'all. Never would have happened without you because I certainly didn't click down that a 1,000,000 times myself. So thank you so much for being here and not just like here today, but here as a whole. Yeah. Before I start to get teary because then I'm going to really lose my voice, I'm gonna jump in. So just a couple of housekeeping things before we begin. This is a recorded live podcast. So if you are talking, you will be recorded and you will probably end up on the podcast.
Patricia Sung [00:02:00]:
So if you're like, I don't want to be on the podcast, then you can type your question in the chat, and I will read out loud. I will only use first name, so, no identifying information will be out there. But you will be recorded if you decide to contribute and be part of this. And then I will not really be monitoring the chat that closely because they're distracting to me. So if you have a question, if you would please write the word questions super big at the front, like in all caps. And then that way as I scroll through, I can find them pretty quick. And, yeah, basically, like this hour is yours. Whatever you wanna ask is is here for you.
Patricia Sung [00:02:35]:
So let me see and make sure I didn't skip anything. Alright. So, y'all, what can I help you with? What do you wanna ask me? What's going on today? How's life? I got my tea here, so take a sip and let me know how you're doing. And what would you like to ask? And if you are ready, like, you can just unmute and say, hi. And if you are like, I wanna put my note in the chat and call on me, I can do that too. I'll kick us off. Hello. Hi, my friend.
Ashley [00:03:04]:
So being that you're at a million downloads, what would you say is your journey on getting to that point, like, with your podcast?
Patricia Sung [00:03:13]:
On any particular, like, part of the journey?
Ashley [00:03:16]:
Let's go with, like, maybe your 3 pivotal moments between the idea of starting a podcast and hitting a 1,000,000 downloads. And I'll add in as a mom with ADHD.
Patricia Sung [00:03:29]:
So I think the first one was just like when I had the idea, like when God asked me, said, hey, can you please do this? And I was like, no, thank you. I am not interested. That moment of thinking like, you know what? Like, I could just try. And if it's a total failure, it's okay. Like, I didn't even tell other people in my life that I was doing it because I was too afraid to say. Like, I'm taking on like, it felt like a really big thing to do. And it felt like, at the time, I think I was really afraid of failing and afraid of looking like I didn't know what I was doing. And, honestly, I didn't know what I was doing.
Patricia Sung [00:03:59]:
So I don't know why I was afraid of looking like I didn't know what I was doing because I had no idea what I was doing. But I think at that point in my life, like, I look back, it was 5 years ago. I was just really afraid of a lot of things. The way people thought of me, the way people might talk about me, things they might say about me. And that's what took me so long to get to the point where I was willing to start the podcast. And so I think that first pivotal moment was just being like, I'm willing to try this and fail. And then if I have to, like, not do it anymore, then I just won't do it anymore. Like, I didn't know how to podcast.
Patricia Sung [00:04:26]:
I didn't know anything about anything, to be honest. I literally was, like, on YouTube watching videos to try to figure it out. But, yeah, I think that was the first one. I'm just being okay with trying and knowing that it probably, honestly, wasn't gonna go well, but it's okay. I think the second one would be when I met with somebody I I respect a lot. She was she has a podcast that has millions of downloads and she's a coach. And when I did this thing in her community where I, like, won a 1 on 1 with her, And so I had, like, 20 minutes to meet with her. And she told me that my niche was too small and that there weren't enough moms with ADHD, and that I should widen my niche.
Patricia Sung [00:05:06]:
That I should talk to more people. Like, I should make it just women with ADHD or just moms. But it was never going to be a big thing. Like, there wasn't enough people and it wasn't gonna gain enough momentum at any point where it would actually make a difference. Like, I had to think about it a lot of, like, am I doing the wrong thing? Like, is this never gonna go anywhere? And I made the decision after a lot of, like, hemming and hawing. Because, again, like, I respect this lady a lot. And she was far far far far beyond me in the journey thinking, like, well, she surely knows what she's talking about. Making that decision to say, you know what? I am gonna trust that this is the mission I was given, and I'm gonna try and I'm gonna go for it.
Patricia Sung [00:05:45]:
And it's okay if it never gets to be a thing. Like, if I never win anything, any awards, I never have, like, fancy numbers. I never if I never get anything cool that says you did a good job, like, as an outer recognition of what I had accomplished, then it was okay because I was doing what God asked of me, and that's enough. And if I only ever talked to 200 people the whole time that the podcast ran, like, that was okay because my mission wasn't to have a million downloads. My mission wasn't how do you be the top whatever of the whatevers. That wasn't the goal. The goal was to try to help as many moms as possible with ADHD. And if there were only 10 of them out there and that's all I got to help, then I did what I was supposed to do.
Patricia Sung [00:06:29]:
So I think that would be the 2nd pivotal moment is recognizing, like, I'm okay if this never goes anywhere. I'm okay if I never do anything cool. The mission is how do I help as many moms who are in my spot as possible. And then I think the 3rd pivotal moment was when the podcast actually hit the top 5 of parenting podcasts. I think I'm not a 100% sure, but I think because, like, when it hit that, I was just like I was in shock. I was crying. I was like, this is amazing. And I was like, I don't know how this happened because I'm like, I didn't do anything to make this happen.
Patricia Sung [00:07:05]:
Like, why did all of a sudden jump that day? And I think it was because someone shared me on, TikTok, which I'm not even on, by the way. Like, if someone told me a couple days later I don't know if it's true or not because, again, I'm not a TikTok. Well, I'll tell you the fact. I tried TikTok for, like, 5 minutes. So if you go in there, you can watch a bunch of ridiculous videos of me that did not pan out, and they're all, like, 2 years old. But it's Nikki Marr of oh, what is it? Nikki Unplugged. Someone told me that she shared the podcast on something. And so it jumped that day to the 5th spot on parenting podcast.
Patricia Sung [00:07:38]:
And I was just like, what? Like, that was the moment where it was like, wait a second. This really can be something. Like, all this it's not gonna be enough. There's not enough people. All this like, all this messaging that I had received along the way that it was never gonna be somewhere big. At that moment where it's like, if one person told her people, like, hey, this is important. There's enough people there that it made a difference. And so finally, like, it's like I got that validation, like, 3 years in of being, like, there are enough people out here that need help.
Patricia Sung [00:08:07]:
Once I got that, like, outside validation, it was like, oh, there are a lot of people here. Like, I it's like I already knew that, but, like, to see it on a number just makes it feel more tangible. So I think that would have been, like, the third one where I realized, like, no. This really is like, there are communities of moms out here that that need this and that it's not just what I imagined to be out there. Like, I physically saw the difference in a number where I knew people needed this and moms needed this community and this hope. So, yeah, I think that would be the 3 of being willing to fail, being okay if it never showed up into anything at all. And then the third one of seeing, like, no. This really matters, and there are people who need this.
Patricia Sung [00:08:48]:
I think those would be the 3 that kind of pushed me along the way. Because I think when it hit top 5, like, I was still pretty early along. I'm like, I probably shouldn't pick a number because I'm not I really don't know. But there was definitely, like, over a 100,000 downloads at that point. So it's like enough, but it was like it had taken so long to get there. It felt like, well, I don't know. Maybe it's just the same person downloading all the episodes. Who knows? But, yeah, I think that's the other hard part about having a podcast is that you don't see anybody who don't like, that's why I wanted to do this today is, like, I actually get to see your faces and be like, hello.
Patricia Sung [00:09:18]:
You're here. I'm so excited to see you. Because normally when I talk on the podcast, like, I'm sitting in my closet surrounded by my clothes and my shoes on the floor with the bathmat from the bathtub. Like, I see you sit on that as my cushion, and I'm just talking to myself. So, you know, I keep putting it out there into the universe and, like, hoping it goes somewhere. But, like, I think that's the hardest part about doing podcasting is that you don't have the interaction and you don't ever get a significant amount of feedback to be like, there is somebody here. Like, I see the number, but I'm like, what if they didn't listen? What if they just downloaded it? And then they started listening for 5 seconds and then their kids interrupted them, and then everyone actually listened to anything. Like, I worry about these kinds of things, which I, you know, I do my best to stop worrying about them.
Patricia Sung [00:09:58]:
But, like, there's no interaction on the podcast side. So that's why, like, I love having my community each month. It's like, okay. Real people. I'm I am helping real people, not just a person somewhere. Hopefully, they downloaded it in their Spotify, like a real human. Yeah. That would be my top 3.
Patricia Sung [00:10:17]:
For those of you who just popped in sorry. I'm getting over in sinus infection, so I'm I lost my voice yesterday. I could not talk at all yesterday. So, very excited it's back. Because also parenting with no voice is some hard work, especially when you have a 6 year old who is the question asker of all question askers.
Sarah Kate [00:10:37]:
Hi. Hi. I'm, hi. I just, finished, a work appointment. So, like, yes, you see the seat belt, but, no, I'm not driving, so don't fear. First off, I just like, finding your podcast has been just immensely helpful. I'm like, oh, yeah. This podcast I listen to, like, the, my my friend, Patricia, she told me this or she told me this, putting the, just it's like putting the alerts on my bank account, had had that was it's just something I'm like I'm like, I didn't know that they did that.
Sarah Kate [00:11:16]:
But they do they do it. They do it. So, I I don't know. I guess, in my vivance, it's kicked in. I have no excuse for fumbling of a word. But I my question is, I just I'm a a single, like, full caregiver to a 3 year old and a business owner, and I'm also helping take care of my sick mother as well. And I just get so overstimulated and feel like I'm kind of, like, drowning a lot of the time and feel like I should be able to do more than I can. And there are other people in my family who don't have ADHD who are still validly struggling with our life circumstances at the moment, but, like, they can do things sequentially more easily.
Sarah Kate [00:12:10]:
And even my sister who has ADHD but who does not have a child, who's also constantly pulling for attention, like, she seems to be able to do it better. Like, even when I'm trying to, like, get in this routine, like, okay. We go in the house. We wash hands. We take off shoes. You do this. I'm making dinner. Like, like, check check check.
Sarah Kate [00:12:31]:
So I don't have to, like, put any executive function into it. It's still, like, just stuff keeps happening because he's a human. He's not a robot.
Patricia Sung [00:12:41]:
Life keeps laughing. Mhmm.
Sarah Kate [00:12:42]:
Yeah. And I don't know how to, like, function within that and keep my brain I I don't know. Like, how do how do I function in in that in the chaos? I don't do you have any tips for that?
Patricia Sung [00:12:54]:
Yeah. I mean, the first thing I wanna recognize is, like, that's a lot of stuff. Like, that's a lot of responsibility. That's a lot of weight. Like, just doing regular life and being a single parent is a lot. Just doing regular life and caring for an ailing parent is a lot. Like, just doing regular life and trying to cope with a 3 year old is a lot. So, like, if you take any one of those things, doing regular life with any one of them is a lot.
Patricia Sung [00:13:21]:
So, like, first recognizing, like, how much you're doing, it's like, yeah, of course, you feel like you're drowning because people keep dumping buckets on your head. Like,
Sarah Kate [00:13:31]:
it's not jumping on me on the bucket and hitting it.
Patricia Sung [00:13:34]:
It's like, it's a lot. And you're just trying to keep your head above water and someone else just keeps dumping more stuff on. It's like, well, obviously, when we take a step back and go like, oh, wow. Look at all the things I'm holding. And when we can give ourselves that, like, moment of grace to just know, like, this is hard. This is a lot of stuff. Just from the get go is step 1. Like, it's not that you should be doing more things.
Patricia Sung [00:14:00]:
You're already doing all the things.
Sarah Kate [00:14:02]:
I feel like I'm doing them all badly. Like, I'm not doing any of them, like, well enough. I don't know. Like, it's it's that perfectionism stuff that you talk about a lot.
Patricia Sung [00:14:14]:
So what is the definition of, like, doing them well? Like, let's pick one of them. Like, what's one of the things that you're like, I'm not doing that well?
Sarah Kate [00:14:24]:
Being able to it's impossible. Just pick 1.
Patricia Sung [00:14:31]:
I know your brain's like, let me think of 17,000,000 right now.
Sarah Kate [00:14:35]:
Which one? Yeah. It's like being able to calmly and just I'm pretty sure this isn't a word, but nurturingly meet my son's needs, all of my son's needs.
Patricia Sung [00:14:50]:
So what's the definition of success and doing that well
Sarah Kate [00:14:54]:
to
Patricia Sung [00:14:55]:
be able to meet all of his needs?
Sarah Kate [00:14:58]:
I mean, I think that that's what that that would be what I how I define it, I guess. Just
Patricia Sung [00:15:04]:
Okay. So if you're trying to meet all of his needs, how much time and resource and, like, manpower and all the things do you need to be able to meet your kids' every need?
Sarah Kate [00:15:18]:
Like, a 100%.
Patricia Sung [00:15:20]:
Right. And so that's one of your responsibilities. So if you want a 100% of you to go to one responsibility
Sarah Kate [00:15:28]:
That doesn't leave a lot for the rest.
Patricia Sung [00:15:30]:
Exactly. So when we think about, like, doing things, quote, unquote, well, the difference of, like, are we expecting ourselves to give a 100% of ourselves to this thing that is only one of the 47 hats you're gonna wear today? You probably don't have a 100% to give to one thing. So then we look at, okay, that's not realistic. So what's the actual goal of what you want like, when you think about, like, nurturing your son, what's the actual goal that we wanna meet?
Sarah Kate [00:15:59]:
I want him to feel loved and supported and not like I'm neglecting him for taking care of my mom or for, like, having to do documentation and stuff and planning at home for work. Like
Patricia Sung [00:16:16]:
So when you say your goal is for him to feel loved and supported, what are the ways that you currently show that you love and support him?
Sarah Kate [00:16:25]:
You know, read to him, ask him questions about his day, tell him he's a great kid. I try really hard to help him learn emotional regulation and coping skills, things like that.
Patricia Sung [00:16:41]:
K. So you
Sarah Kate [00:16:42]:
have shown prepare him for whatever eventually happens with my mom.
Patricia Sung [00:16:46]:
Yeah.
Sarah Kate [00:16:47]:
So
Patricia Sung [00:16:48]:
So you're showing him how he's loved and supported by spending time with him, reading with him, asking him questions, helping him learn emotional regulation, telling him he's a good kid. And are all those things fulfilling that goal of him feeling loved and supported?
Sarah Kate [00:17:05]:
I hope.
Patricia Sung [00:17:05]:
I mean, it's hard to judge a 3 year old. But when you're sitting there reading a book with him and you look at him, do you think he feels loved and supported?
Sarah Kate [00:17:12]:
I do. And when you
Patricia Sung [00:17:13]:
tell like, pictures his face for a moment, like, when you tell him he's a good kid and you see how his face changes, does he feel loved and supported?
Sarah Kate [00:17:23]:
I think so. He's 3. So
Patricia Sung [00:17:25]:
He's 3. So, like, yeah,
Sarah Kate [00:17:26]:
I think I think so.
Patricia Sung [00:17:28]:
But, like, planting all these little seeds of, like, the little things you're doing. A lot of times as mom, we feel like we need more quantity and that we're not giving our kids enough quantity of things, but it's not all about the quantity. It's not that you're giving him a 100% of your resources. It's that when you're present with him, he's getting that quality time. And, yeah, like Ashley said, it's like the fact that you even think about these things says that you love him a lot. It says that you care. Like, I tell people all the time. I'm like, you're a good mom if you've actually questioned whether or not you're a good mom.
Patricia Sung [00:18:00]:
Because people who are terrible moms, not that there's that many other, like, they don't care. They're not worried about being a better mom. Like, the moms who care and the moms who are trying, those are the good moms. Like, that's what your kid wants to see. Like, when you're spending time, like, working on things for your mom like, yes, he's 3 now, but, you know, depending on how long this goes on for, like, as he's growing, like, he's gonna remember that. He's gonna see the way you care for other people, and that's teaching him lessons in how you're caring for others or how you work hard at your job to provide for your family. Like, he's going to see that. And so while you may not spend 100% of your time with him, he's still learning all those things.
Patricia Sung [00:18:39]:
And when you're with him, that quality time that you give him shows how much you love him and how you much you support him. And as moms, we are always gonna sit here and be like, well, I could have done this and I could have done that. And there's always 47 more ways that you could have done all the things because there's always more ways to do more things. But when it comes to what's most important to you and the values that you set, you said, I care that I my son feels loved and supported. So that's your goal. It's not, did I spend my whole evening only with him and not do any work? It's that the quality time that you're with him, when you can lean in and focus on him, that 10 minutes before bedtime or that 5 minute car ride, like those times, you can lean in and love and support him well. He doesn't need 100% of your resources to feel loved and supported. They actually did research on this.
Patricia Sung [00:19:29]:
And, of course, I cannot remember the stats right now off the top of my head. But they did research around. I'm like, oh, I gotta find that article now about, like, the amount of time that your kids really need, like, your true, like, undivided focus and that you're, like, really listening to them is actually not that much time. I'm like, Ashley, do you know what to say? Yes. I saw you on mute. I'm like, do you know what this article is?
Ashley [00:19:47]:
I don't. But I was told once I wanna share that at some point, you can ask them what makes them feel loved. I have a 4 and a half year old and a 2 and a half year old. Can't ask the 2 and a half year old. But the 4 and a half year old, like, it took a bit to figure out. So for him to tell me, how does he feel loved? Does he feel loved when I watch TV with him? Does he feel loved when I hug him? Does he feel loved when we play? And it almost kinda shows, like, what their love language is. So that way also you can match them at their level. But, also, it sounds like again, you're you're thinking of these things, which is amazing on its own, and you should, like, let that settle in.
Sarah Kate [00:20:24]:
Thank you all. Thank you.
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Patricia Sung [00:21:20]:
Really, like, coming back to, like, if your goal is to feel that he feels loved and supported, it's not that you did 47 things for him today. It's not that you have to meet every need or all of the needs. If the goal is to see, feel, love, and supported, how do you focus in on just that? Because if you're trying to do all the different things, like, there's only so much of you to go around, and you have other things that are also very important. Like, I think that's the hard part. Like, we think about priorities is, like, just because my kid's super important doesn't mean that my mom who's sick isn't not important. It's just in the moment one's gonna be more important than the other. But it's not that either one of them is not important. Like, sometimes we feel like by saying, like, I'm gonna go take care of my mom this afternoon and, like, my kids, like, being dragged along but not getting, like, the same, like, attention level that they're not important.
Patricia Sung [00:22:09]:
And it's not. At that moment, your mom is more important than your kid, but your kid is still learning from you in the way that you do things and the way that you care for others. So it all adds up. So, like, circling back to the original question of, like, what's my advice? One of them is when you think about these different things, like, just like we talked about your son, like, what's the most important thing that you value on each of these areas that you feel like you're juggling? And, like, how do you meet that thing? So, like, what's the most important thing that you want, you know, as you're caring for your ailing mom? What's what's are the what are the most important things to you as you look at work? What are the most important things so that you don't have to do all the things about that one topic? It's how do you get the most bang for your buck. Like, the 80 20 rule of 20% of your efforts are actually making 80% of your impact. So what are the things that are gonna make the most difference in those areas? And for everyone, those are gonna be different. Because for one person, they think about, like, if we're, like, a really mundane thing of, like, cleaning your house. It's like some people will be like, well, as long as I can see all my counters, I feel like my house is clean.
Patricia Sung [00:23:09]:
And other people will be like, well, as long as my, like, toilet doesn't have rings in it, I feel like my house is clean. Like, then just do the 1 or 2 things that, like, make you feel like you made a big difference. You don't have to have the house out of the magazine. What are the 1 or 2 things that are gonna really feel like, okay, I made a difference here. And, like, as your son gets older, you'll hear. Oh, well, you know, the reading really makes more impact for him, or he really loves talking in the car, or, you know, whatever those things are that as he can start to voice that opinion over the things that he loves the most, so that you can focus your efforts in on there.
Sarah Kate [00:23:39]:
How do I remember that though? Like, that's another thing with the ADHD. I just it's like, sitting here with you now, I'm like, okay. Son, loved and nurtured, mom, supported, and, like, she did a good job as a mother, like, in, like, work. I want my clients to feel seen and, like, I value their time. But then, like, when I'm in the moment, it's Yeah. My brain just goes like, meh. I'm I'm sorry. I'm taking up so much of your time.
Sarah Kate [00:24:05]:
No. You're okay.
Patricia Sung [00:24:07]:
Nobody else has said they wanna talk yet. If they do, they can put it in the chat. So so I
Sarah Kate [00:24:13]:
I I forget the goal when I'm in the moment.
Patricia Sung [00:24:16]:
I mean, there's a ton of ways that, like, we can remember things. And I my question would go back to, like, what's the way that helps you remember things best? Like, I mean, you can't see my desk, obviously, but, like, to the left of the camera here, there's a bunch of notes on my board, and most of them are, like, reminding me of what I'm supposed to be doing. Like, this is my priority list for the summer. I like, I have pictures of my like, my kids drew for me of, like, oh, right. My family is most important. I'm out of this. Like, like, on my calendar, I have, like, a block out every morning of, like, I don't know, probably, like, 10 minutes to do my physical therapy exercises. I ignore that one a lot.
Patricia Sung [00:24:54]:
I probably should just take that off my calendar. Like, that's not a that's not working for me. So, like, I tried it. It didn't work. Scrap it. What's my new plan? And figuring out, like, what's your go to reminder? Like, is it post it notes stuck to the door? Like, also, I have a ton of post it notes stuck to my monitor here of, like, when I walk up that that Like, I literally have priorities, family, lighthouse, retreat. Like, I have them written on my in my face because, otherwise, I forgot them. So, like, for you, like, what's the go to? Like, I will notice that.
Patricia Sung [00:25:26]:
Are you if you're gonna ignore the sticky after a while, maybe you just use the sticky for 3 months and then come up with a new one.
Sarah Kate [00:25:32]:
Switch to a phone alert or something. Yeah. Phone alerts are dangerous for me, though, because it's designed to distract you, like, bones. So Yeah. Okay. Tattooed on the inside of my eyelid. That's it.
Patricia Sung [00:25:46]:
That would
Sarah Kate [00:25:46]:
be a
Patricia Sung [00:25:47]:
really great invention if somebody could make that. I would appreciate it.
Sarah Kate [00:25:50]:
Sounds really painful also, but, thank you.
Patricia Sung [00:25:54]:
Temporary tattoo.
Sarah Kate [00:25:55]:
Literally can't tell you how helpful your podcast has been to me. Just so helpful. And the fact that I don't have to pay for it also as a single mom is, like, invaluable. So thank you.
Patricia Sung [00:26:10]:
You are so welcome. No. That makes me really happy. Those are the time where I'm like sometimes I was like like, when Ashley asked me, like, what what helped kept you going? I was like, there are plenty of times where I was like, should I just stop this? Is this a waste of time? Is this a waste of effort? Like so knowing that makes a really big difference. Thank you.
Sarah Kate [00:26:28]:
Yeah. Like, I I wait for the new episodes. It it's just wonderful. So thank you.
Patricia Sung [00:26:34]:
Thank you. Like, I'm trying not to cry because then I think I'll lose my voice again. So I'm like
Rebecca Wilderness [00:26:41]:
I on and just encourage is your name Sarah?
Sarah Kate [00:26:46]:
Yes. Sarah Kate.
Rebecca [00:26:48]:
I just wanted to encourage you. So I am the daughter of a mom who is very ADHD, and she also was the primary caretaker of her parents and also my dad's mom as well. And I have very sweet memories as a kid being my mom's helper and taking care of my grandparents. So I just wanted to encourage you that
Sarah Kate [00:27:12]:
Thank you. I let him. My mom can't drink water anymore. So, he, like, he helps me crush the ice for her. So I'm glad to know that that might be a a good memory instead of a traumatic one because that's also something that's on my mind. So thank you.
Rebecca [00:27:31]:
Now my mom has told me, she's like, I was very worried that this was gonna traumatize you. And I'm like, no. It's it's sweet because I actually have some memories. And, you know, as a kid, it's not good or bad. It's just this is how it is. Normal. Yeah. But, anyway, that's all.
Sarah Kate [00:27:48]:
Thank you.
Patricia Sung [00:27:49]:
Thank you, Rebecca. I'm like, oh, y'all. I'm gonna start crying. I already start cry I already started crying. Yeah. I think sometimes we we really beat ourselves up for stuff that, like, we don't we don't need to. Like, it's it shows how much you care about your kids that you're, like, considering all those things. And I think also, like, that's one of the hard parts about ADHD is that we do think of, like, all the angles.
Patricia Sung [00:28:11]:
Like, not everybody's like that, but a lot of people with ADHD, like, think of all perspectives that could possibly go into this thing in some way, shape, or form. And, like, it is a really great skill in many ways, but it also can send our brains into, like, the the panic anxious spiral of, like, well, what if this happens? What if this happens? But, like, the fact that we can show our kids how to love people who are struggling. Like Rebecca said, like, as kids, we don't we don't see all of the, like, like, the best phrase I can think of is, like, how the sausage was made. Like, we don't see all the background things. As grown ups, when we look at the situation, we see all the other stuff that comes with it. But, like, our kids are just looking at it like, oh, like, I can help my grandma by crushing the ice. Like, they're not looking at, like, the 7 steps into it of, like, why she can't drink water and also like, they don't look at all that. They're looking at, like, here's a way I get to help somebody I love.
Patricia Sung [00:29:12]:
And I feel important, and I have my like, I have a job, and I have a, like, purpose here. Like, kids really do well with those things. Like, I mean, obviously, like, as they get older, like, this depends on age. But, like, they're not looking at it with the same like, the same glasses that we as the grown up are looking at. And instead, they see how to set aside a time to care for somebody, how they can help even when, like, a way that a 3 year old can help. Like and that's a really beautiful thing that a lot of times we don't give ourselves credit for. We instead, we're worrying about the 47 ways we probably traumatize our kids today. Like, there's pain in mom's heart, man.
Sarah Kate [00:29:50]:
Think about the the the enneagram a lot too. Like, I think you've mentioned that. Right? You're, like, year 3, I think. You said 1. Year 1. Okay. Yeah. Sorry.
Sarah Kate [00:30:01]:
I knew it was one of those achieving numbers, but, like, they all have an unanswered childhood question. Right? So and everyone has an Enneagram number. So in some way, it's it's like, well, I'm gonna mess them up and, like, you know, like, it's it's a little fatalistic, but also, like, there's no getting around it. He's going to have an Enneagram number. So Yeah.
Patricia Sung [00:30:24]:
Anyway. I mean, we're we're raising people, like humans, that are developing, and there's no way to protect them from everything. So how can we introduce him to, like, the harder parts of life with a loving mindset? Like, I think this is a beautiful way to introduce him to, like, how to care for people who are struggling. And granted, like, that's just my opinion, but it's, like, there's gonna be plenty of times that he sees people struggling in life. And how beautiful is it that, like, these are his earliest memories of caring for somebody who's struggling is how he's helping.
Sarah Kate [00:31:01]:
He said at preschool, one of his teachers told me when I picked him up, they were doing make believe, like, pretend play in a kitchen, and he was stirring something. I'm probably gonna cry again. He was stirring something and the teacher said, what are you what are you making? And he said, I'm making soup for granny. Like,
Patricia Sung [00:31:20]:
oh, I'm so sweet.
Sarah Kate [00:31:22]:
This is a sweet kid. Oh, god. Sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I was just
Patricia Sung [00:31:27]:
So, like, I, like, circling back. I'm like, when I told you, does he feel loved and supported? And you're like, I think so. I'm like, Sarah Kate, he clearly feels loved and supported because he tells other people the same thing. Like, he does it for other people. He illustrates that. Like, you're doing a great job. Alright. There's always more things we can tell ourselves we should be doing.
Ashley [00:31:48]:
I'm sure I can take this note for myself too. But if everyone has to have an Enneagram number, that doesn't mean you're the one who causes his. It could be something at school. It could be something. It he could have been born with it. Let's go with 2. Right? Depending on how woo you wanna get. But you can be help of the solution.
Ashley [00:32:10]:
So don't and, again, very end of the ambigram. Yeah. Our kids will have grievances with us at some point, but also the fact that we're sitting here having this conversation now with a 3 year old, 4 and a half year old, 6 year old. Like, when the time comes that they're saying I'm frustrated about this, we'll be ready to listen. So you won't you might not be, like, the one causing it. So that's something you can, like, release too.
Patricia Sung [00:32:34]:
Let go of the guilt. Yeah. Okay.
Sarah Kate [00:32:36]:
Fine. Yeah. We're working on it. Mhmm. Yeah.
Patricia Sung [00:32:41]:
Yeah. And just like our kids are growing, like, we as moms are growing. I wish there was, like, an instruction manual, but there's not. So, like, we're learning how to be parents at the same time that they're learning how to be people. And I have to remind myself of that a lot of, like, I don't I wasn't meant to know exactly what to do, or else I feel like we would have gotten the instruction manual with the kid. Like, this is part of our our growth as people is learning how to do this well for the kids that we have been given to care for. And he's shaping you just as much as you're shaping him.
Sarah Kate [00:33:14]:
He did too many instruction manual for mothers.
Patricia Sung [00:33:18]:
Well, there's a lot of people yelling instructions and having commentaries. I don't know they really made instruction manual. I'm like, uh-huh. But, yeah, there's a lot of people that like to be
Sarah Kate [00:33:26]:
money at the beginning. Yes. Probably my biggest struggle when I became a mother was I mean, besides the lack of sleep, but I love Excel spreadsheets and, like, color coding them and making them very nice. Like, I had an Excel spreadsheet before he was born with, like, I have this item and this size. How many of these have I, like, inventoried and all this, and then everything was just so perfectly organized. And then I'm like, I will do this right, and there's no right. There's just there's no right. So, anyway yeah.
Sarah Kate [00:34:00]:
I thank you again.
Patricia Sung [00:34:02]:
Hardest parts about being a parent is, like, all the coping mechanisms we had for ourselves ahead of time, like, before we had kids, worked then. But then all of a sudden, you're given this creature who does not care about spreadsheets, and you have to, like, figure out a whole new way to do things. Because, like, I I get you. I'm a spreadsheet girl. Like, I love I love a good table. It's color coded. Makes me happy. But, like, that's not how kids roll.
Patricia Sung [00:34:26]:
They they, you know, take your spreadsheet and throw it in
Sarah Kate [00:34:29]:
the trash. So Babies don't read baby books.
Patricia Sung [00:34:33]:
They don't. Or any books or listen or speak. It's like it's just a whole like, it's so much of a growth experience for us too because all those things that we had in place before are not what we need now. Like, some of them help us, but there's just so much flexibility needed and so much growth for us and, like, having that grace for ourselves to say it's okay that we don't know what you're doing and we're gonna figure it out. It's a ride.
Patricia Sung [00:35:03]:
It's time to be true to you. You're invited, mama, to this year's 3rd annual successful as a mother weekend retreat. It is time to relax, unwind, rest, and take care of a very important person in the family, which is you. This year's retreat is on October 11th through 13th 2024, and you're invited. This is an all inclusive retreat. It covers your meals, your hotel, all of our activities. All you have to do is show up, and I take it from there. We are staying in the historic boutique hotel, the Sam Houston in downtown Houston, where we will learn about our ADHD, tune in to who you are and what you need so that you can trust your gut, all while eating delicious food you didn't cook, you didn't clean up, hanging out with awesome other moms who are just like you in their ADHD journey, trying to make things work, fill out the permission slips, do all the things, but not this weekend.
Patricia Sung [00:36:03]:
This weekend, you get to relax. I will take care of everything, and you get to focus on you. Head over to my website patricasung.com/retreat and grab your ticket. This is a small group, and we already have 5 moms from last year coming, so I don't have a ton of spots left. Do not wait. Do not procrastinate. When you hear this and you say this is for me, go grab your ticket. You can use a payment plan.
Patricia Sung [00:36:29]:
I don't charge extra for that. Go sign up, get your ticket, and take a weekend to take care of you while I do all the work. So head over to patricasung.com/retreat and get your ticket for the 3rd annual ADHD moms amazing getaway weekend and relax. Patricasung.com/retreat.
Ashley [00:36:53]:
What would be, Patricia, your biggest mission with this podcast? Did you maybe just say it?
Patricia Sung [00:37:00]:
It it's to help as many moms as possible with ADHD. Like, how do I help millions of moms with ADHD? And, like Help them what? Oh, I need to feel confident and capable and that, like, you're you can do this. Is it gonna be pretty most of the time? Probably not. But that it is possible to be successful when you have ADHD. It is possible to feel like you're doing a decent job. Like, no. Not every day are we gonna feel like we're doing a great job. I mean, motherhood's hard.
Patricia Sung [00:37:33]:
But to know, like, it's doable, we can figure it out, and we can go through our phase of parenthood feeling like we did what we set out to do. Our kids feel loved. Our kids feel supported. And, like, the only way through is not burnout and overwhelm. Is that we can take these little steps forward to get to the place where we feel like, okay. I think this is doable. I think I can keep my head above water for a little bit. And, like, every time life dumps more water on, like, how do I figure out how to to deal with that? Because we can't control life.
Patricia Sung [00:38:09]:
We aren't raising robots. Like, things are gonna be hard. But how can we set ourselves up to be able to handle that? And I think that all comes back to probably, like, 95% of the time, it comes back to us trusting ourselves and relearning how to listen to ourselves. I think a lot of people with ADHD have learned to stop trusting their gut, stop trusting the way that that we hear the messages from ourselves, whether that like, some people are more, like, somatic and they feel more, like, in their gut or whatever. Some people hear things or think things in their mind. Some people see more visually. Like, everybody gets their messages different from their body. Like, going back to trusting yourself and learning like, relearning that language that you have ignored for so many years and connecting back into who you are and being able to listen to yourself, and therefore, feeling more confident in what you're doing.
Patricia Sung [00:39:02]:
Yeah. I think, like, a lot of it got buried during early motherhood or, like, whatever traumas you have endured from birth till now. Like, all of that has pulled a lot of us with ADHD away from remembering who we are and how we can trust ourselves. And when we can feel confident in that, we can handle a lot more other things. Because the way that we approach like, for example, like, what Sarah Kate was saying, it's like the way that when we have when we're carrying all this stuff, you know, ailing parents, job struggles, parent like, when you start naming all the things that we're dealing with, like, it's all gonna be there no matter what. So how do we have the centeredness and the groundedness to be able to deal with all of those things and trust that we're doing our best? Like, the fact that moms question even if they're doing a good job, like, you're doing a good job just by questioning it. And you I know you're constantly looking for ways to, like, do it better, which is wonderful. And I want you to know, like, whatever you're doing right now is also good.
Patricia Sung [00:40:04]:
Like, when you make the best decision you can with the information you have, you're doing your best. And we don't have to be this, like, permanent self improvement project. We can also just be ourselves and be happy with that. And like, how do we find that contentment with that? Like the balance of I wanna do better and I am okay how I am is a hard one. But I think we can get there. Yeah. Especially for the high achievers, like being okay. All the perfectionists and my fellow Enneagram ones and all the gifted and talented kids who feel like they were are now exessentially having crises.
Patricia Sung [00:40:37]:
Like, finding that balance of, yes, I wanna do better, and I'm also good just as I am, pulling those 2 back into alignment. That's my hope. That's my plan. Hopefully, we'll get there sooner than later. So
Ashley [00:40:53]:
Well, you already hit a million, so just keep on keeping on.
Patricia Sung [00:40:58]:
I don't have any plans to stop anytime soon. Someone asked me the other day, they're like, how are you gonna how long are you gonna do this? And I was like, oh, no. Like, till God tells me to stop. I don't know. Like, I never thought I got this far, to be honest. Like, the fact that I ADHD and did something for 5 years straight, I'm like, wow. That's pretty good. So, yeah, I love what I do, so keep on tracking.
Rebecca [00:41:17]:
Hey. I'm gonna jump in and ask a question. Since you said how long are you gonna do this, how do you feel like your journey has evolved in the last 5 years? Because I imagine it doesn't look like exactly how it started for you. And how has it changed, like, over the last 5 years?
Patricia Sung [00:41:35]:
Oh, man. Oh, thank you, Heather. I'll see you later. I think back to the beginning, like, I really was like, oh my gosh. I really didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know how to podcast. It really was like, an outlet for trying to find connection again after having my son because I think I started it when he was about a year, year and a half, and I just felt so disconnected from people who understood me. And so it was a lot of just trying to find my people was part like, it was equally as selfish as it was, like, helping other people.
Patricia Sung [00:42:06]:
And when it was still in this, like, hobby phase of, like, I'm I don't really know what I'm doing, and I'm just trying to connect the dots together and help as many people as I can and also, like, find people that that get me. It was oh my god. I categorize that phase. It felt like mostly, like, I didn't know what I was doing at all. And it was just like throwing spaghetti out there and, like, hoping something sticks the whole time. It was, like, probably, like, a year and a half. And then when I realized, like, I wanted to teach more and I started doing the courses and, like, leaning on my educator background, it was, like, that was just so fun, and it lit me up so much to be able to do this thing that I loved. And now in a way that was nowhere near what I thought it was gonna be.
Patricia Sung [00:42:45]:
Like, I honestly thought that when my kids were bigger, I would just go back. I was gonna go back and get my masters and be, like, a principal at a school. And to end up in this place where I'm like, I was not planning on starting another business. Like, I already have a real estate company. I was like, this was not at all in the cards. This is not in the 5 year plan by any means. And at that point, being like, okay. Like, I started putting the courses out there, but it still felt, like, very safe because it was very much, like, what I knew and what I felt comfortable doing.
Patricia Sung [00:43:11]:
So it was, like, trying something new, but, like, now that I look back, it was, like, it was new for me because I knew what I was doing. But it wasn't as, I guess, like, risky because I was still doing the thing I was really good at just in a different way. And then when I realized, like, I really wanted to do coaching, that's when it felt like, oh, wow. I'm really, really, like, woah. This is not like, am I am I serious? Am I really gonna do this? Am I going to step out and do this job that, like, feels very, what's the word I'm looking for? Like like, a lot of times coaching just feels like very unofficial. Like, when you're an educator and you have your certification and your degrees, like, it feels very like, I am very official here with my job. And coaching, it's like any old schmoke can decide they're gonna be a coach. Like, you hope that they got some training, but, like, literally, they don't have to.
Patricia Sung [00:43:57]:
They can just show up and be like, I'm a coach. Okay. Like, there's no rules about deciding you're a coach. And so to go from this very, like, education's a very, like, hierarchical. Is that a word? Hierarchical? Like, very much, like, a lot of bureaucracy, a lot of politics, a lot of, like, you can only advance if you have these, you know, degrees and these certifications. Like, it's very official and very, I don't know, like, limiting is the right word, but it's like there's a lot of gatekeeping going on. And then to, like, jump into this field. Yeah.
Patricia Sung [00:44:27]:
Online business, feel like the Wild, Wild West. Like, there's no rules. Anybody can do whatever they want. Like, you really have to do your research when you're trying to find somebody to help you because any old schmoe can say they're an expert. And, like, how how do you like, you gotta research and back them up. And so it felt like I went from the beginning of, like, this is a hobby I have no idea what I'm doing. Then it was like, here I'm doing something that is felt risky to me, but it was actually pretty safe. Then in this phase of like, oh my gosh.
Patricia Sung [00:44:53]:
Like, am I really just gonna jump out here and, like, in this foray of, like, unknownness and be able to, like, stand on my own 2 feet from a I'm like, what's the word I'm looking for? Like, there's not like, again, like, education is like you have all these, like, thing like, there's resources to find and lean on. Whereas in doing an online business, like, there's no, like, system and there's no, like, structure, like, on you have to do things this way. Like, in yeah. So that's what it is. In education, it's very much like you wanna do this, do these 3 steps, follow the instructions, and it was very clear as to how to move forward. When you have your own business, especially one online, it's like, you can do whatever you want. Like, how you gonna get there? And the confidence and the, like, centeredness and groundedness that I have to have to be able to do this well is, like, 5 years ago, Patricia had no idea what would have been required here and how much I have to stay focused on the things that are really important. Because if you spend too much time on Instagram, you see all the people doing all the things, and you'll see, well, this is the person who has 10 New York Times bestsellers, and this person has a YouTube channel with 70,000,000 views, and this person has, you know, their 100 k months and, like, 10 extra visibility for blah, blah, blah.
Patricia Sung [00:46:12]:
Like, there's always going to be all these people out here telling you, like, you have to do my formula to get somewhere. And that's a lie, 1. 2, a lot of their instructions are not meant for people who are neurodivergent. And 3, like, I'm the one who decides what success looks like. Because for me, like, having a YouTube channel with whatever blah, blah, blah, blah, that that doesn't matter to me. Like, I that does not really sound like a ton of fun. Like, I don't wanna have to figure out how YouTube works. I don't wanna figure out, like, looking, like, halfway put together.
Patricia Sung [00:46:46]:
Like, that's probably podcasting me. They're in my PJs talking to myself in my closet. I don't have to look cute. I mean, I'm not even wearing makeup today, but, actually, I don't wear much makeup at all. To me, it's, like, starts looking more about, like, what I'm presenting instead of the information. It's like, is that my, like, value and, like, what success looks like? And it's not. But to be able to say that and, like, hold true to myself has been, like, a huge, a huge hurdle to get to. And being able to say, like, I'm okay with not having all the razzle dazzle things that all these other people have and staying true to, like, what really matters for me.
Patricia Sung [00:47:25]:
So I think I really appreciate the last, like, year or 2 and how much, like, I've centered myself and, like, staying true to who I am, which is really hard. I feel like I get off track, like, every 5 seconds, but that's made a really big difference. And it's especially when you have ADHD, you're like, oh, shiny thing. Oh, shiny thing. Like, to keep coming back and being like, no. What's my mission here? What's my purpose? Who am I trying to help? How am I trying to help them? It's a constant battle to stay focused in on what really matters and, and stay true to, like, who I am and what matters to me. So oh, thank you, Sergei. I'm so glad you came.
Patricia Sung [00:48:02]:
Have fun at work, I hope, or at least help somebody a lot. I don't know what you do, but you said session with a person. I'm assuming you're helping them with something. So
Sarah Kate [00:48:09]:
I'm the only private practice board certified music therapist in Central Arkansas. So Mhmm. Yeah. I work with senior adults and yeah. It's awesome. So, thank you. I will, I would say see you, but I'll I'll hear you on your next episode. Bye.
Patricia Sung [00:48:28]:
I am so glad y'all are here. Seeing your outfits just makes me really happy. Alright, Jill. I'm gonna do one more question, and then we'll wrap up. Like, my I can hear my voice is starting to peter out. So okay. Do y'all have any more questions for me?
Rebecca [00:48:42]:
All I was gonna say is I googled, you know, mom coach for ADHD entrepreneur, and you were the first person that popped up and that was fantastic. I was like, this is exactly what I'm looking for. So pretty great.
Patricia Sung [00:48:57]:
Thank you. I'm like, all that work on my SEO worked.
Rebecca [00:49:00]:
Yeah. It worked great. Good job.
Patricia Sung [00:49:04]:
I think that it's like when you start your own business, you're like, I when I started this, I had no idea I was gonna have to learn so many things. Like, if you would even ask me what SEO was 5 years ago, I'd have been like, Sue? Sue Sue? What is that? I don't know. So, man
Yanitza [00:49:20]:
Can you hear me now?
Patricia Sung [00:49:21]:
Yay. I can hear you.
Yanitza [00:49:22]:
Yay. Audio works. So I don't know so much as a question or the statement. Like, I can't believe. Well, I can't believe because, 1, you're wonderful. But, also, like, 1,000,000 is a big deal. So my husband produces podcast, and I told him, like, you got to 1,000,000. And he was like, what? That's a, like, that is a big, huge deal.
Yanitza [00:49:46]:
So I think from our family to yours, like, we're just so proud of you. Thank you. And I'm so glad the world agrees how wonderful you are, and they listen. And then also, like, what I was not gonna cry. Like, one amazing, impact you've made on so many people. And and and just speaking for myself, like, I've I've known I've been around for a couple years, but I just adore you. And I'm so glad I found a friend on the Internet. And, yeah, you just made my life so much better.
Yanitza [00:50:17]:
So I just
Patricia Sung [00:50:18]:
Thank you.
Yanitza [00:50:18]:
Care about you so much, and I wanna give you all your flowers. And thank you. Like, you just make all the, like, self esteem stuff and all the, like, things like, oh, my brain's not working and this and that. Like, you just you make it in a way that I don't feel so negative about myself and just come a long way. And I it's it's You have. Big part because of you, and I just wanna thank you. And here's the 2,000,000.
Patricia Sung [00:50:50]:
Thank you. Jose. Johnny's one of my, like, my ride or dies. She's been around here since the beginning. Thank you. No. I love you. Like, can't wait to hug you at the retreat in a couple months.
Patricia Sung [00:51:02]:
Yeah. It's, no. Thank you for telling me that because, like, that's another thing that's really weird in the podcast world is, like, people don't say how many downloads they have, and it's like this big mystery. And so, like, and, like, I think that's pretty good. But, like, most people won't say what they have. So it's kinda like, you know, it's almost like money. Like, people don't talk about their money enough and be like, like, they I don't know. It's like
Yanitza [00:51:23]:
Well, I can tell you he produces about 47. So he has a lot. And over the years, he said more. Most of them get, he said, anywhere between 100 to, like, 250 a month. And, usually, the podcast don't last more than a couple years. Like, people just kinda do the work in in the beginning, and then they kind of fall out or whatever. But he was like, 1,000,000 is a big deal. That's like like, you won the lotto.
Yanitza [00:51:47]:
Like, most people I think most people don't he said he said that to me. He's like, most people don't realize, like, how much people and, like, like, how much audio that is to listen to and how much that is. He's like, most people never get that. He's like, you're lucky to get 500,000. He's like, a million is a big deal. So I just
Patricia Sung [00:52:08]:
oh, yay. And he's been doing this for 10 years, so I mean can't see me. I'm doing well. The answer. And he's been doing this for 10
Yanitzas [00:52:14]:
years, and it's just he's just like, that's a big deal. That's like like a million is is no joke. So I just hope you know that. Amazing. No.
Patricia Sung [00:52:22]:
That means a lot. Because I'm always like I mean, I'm assuming that a lot of people get to a million because not many people say it, so I'm assuming they're not there. But it's just, when I think back to, like, Patricia from 5 years ago who was like, I don't know. I'm no. This is a terrible idea. Like, to just and, like, I think back of, like, I have screenshots of, like, the beginning when I'd have, like, 7 downloads today. And you're like, oh, man. Like, I'm I would had to, like, picture myself seeing, like, 7 ladies listening to it and being like, I'm very happy that I helped these 7 people.
Patricia Sung [00:52:51]:
Because it feels like like, when you just think of 7, it doesn't feel like a lot. But when I picture 7 people, I'm like, oh, I'm helping 7 people. And there's a lot of time, like, I don't even know how I kept going. There's so many times where I was just like, this is terrible. I should just give up, throw in the towel. But, yeah, it's crazy. I'm still like, I don't know. I don't even know how I got here sometimes.
Patricia Sung [00:53:10]:
I'm like, it's a lot of stubbornness maybe. I don't know. So alright, y'all. Thank you so much for coming today. It's so good to see you, made me really happy that y'all were, here to hang out with me. I appreciate it. And it's so good to, like, put faces to the people. Like, I can now picture you, like, when I'm in my closet sitting on the floor, I can be like, well, look, these people are listening.
Patricia Sung [00:53:34]:
It really gives me a lot of life to know that like, this is, it's real and it's tangible and it just makes me really happy. So thank you all for coming. Thank you for being here. Thank you for downloading. Love you guys. I'm gonna go make some more tea and, just revel in my happy bubble today. Just really appreciative. So okay.
Patricia Sung [00:53:54]:
I made it through with only kind of crying, like, 3 times. This is pretty good. So love you all. Thank you for being here. And, I hopefully will see you very soon. Bye.
Patricia Sung [00:54:04]:
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